Chosen watering hole: The Gallery pub in the City

Ambience: The handful of stockbrokers not on a foreign beach

Topics: Hedge funds, aerophobia, the good old days

Drinks drunk: 2 Staropramen, 2 Leffe, 1 Becks, 1 Budvar

鈥淲hat鈥檚 happened?鈥 asks Robin as we step into the pub. 鈥淭his place is normally heaving.鈥

Optimistically, we decide the pub has only a dozen people inside because a) it鈥檚 Wednesday, b) it鈥檚 the summer holidays, and definitely not because c) the credit crunch has meant vast swaths of stockbrokers have lost their jobs.

Talk of summer holidays brings us to the subject of flying and Robin has a nasty tale for anyone who gets nervous at 30,000 feet. 鈥淚 was flying into Texas this one time and the thermals meant it felt like someone was violently punching the bottom of the plane.鈥

And this didn鈥檛 cause any consternation? 鈥淣o. I have every faith in aerospace engineering. It鈥檚 just something that can happen when you fly over hot flat land.鈥

I was flying into Texas and it felt like someone was violently punching the plane

John Messenger, a fellow equity analyst who works for ABN Amro, may not have been so sanguine, says Mike. 鈥淗e was in a plane crash in Australia and only noticed he鈥檇 injured his back when he was pulling someone from the wreckage. Then, shortly afterwards, he rolled over in his 4 x 4.鈥

Mike jokes: 鈥淭hat鈥檚 why he became so bearish on the market.鈥 Bearish being Cityspeak for pessimism about a stock鈥檚 fortunes 鈥 the opposite of bullish.

Speaking of pessimism vs optimism, we inevitably get to the matter of the housebuilding meltdown. Mike kicks off in upbeat mode: 鈥淲e鈥檙e still here, at least. In fact, I find it very hard to imagine a big housebuilder being allowed to go bust.鈥 A heartening thought.

And what of the recession of the early nineties? What鈥檚 the difference between then and now? 鈥淗edge funds,鈥 they both agree. Their short-selling activities, which can make them a profit while driving down companies鈥 share prices, means going to the market for capital has become more difficult for companies in distress.

Hedge funds will kick the crap out of anything involving
need-driven money

Robin says: 鈥淚t鈥檚 been like shooting fish in a barrel for hedge funds. They will kick the crap out of anything involving need-driven money.鈥

鈥淭he City totally changed after the Big Bang in 1986,鈥 says Mike. He paints a stereotypical picture of long, boozy lunches prior to deregulation. 鈥淓very day there would be a managing director of some company or other in for lunch. It would be silver service and afterwards they鈥檇 get out the K眉mmel and cigarettes.鈥

K眉mmel? 鈥淵es, Google it. I don鈥檛 know what it was made from but they always brought out the K眉mmel.鈥

K眉mmel, it turns out, is a caraway seed-based schnapps that was invented in Latvia in 1823. Or Holland in 1575, depending on which website you believe.

Either way, not much of it gets quaffed these days in the City. 鈥淚t鈥檚 all mineral water now,鈥 Mike laments. Except tonight, obviously.

Robin Hardy - housebuilding analyst
Mike Foster - construction analyst
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