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Andrew Loudon has a plan. The former chief operating officer of Currie & Brown admits that when people mention the firm he now runs, Dar, the name is more likely to prompt head-scratching than recognition.

鈥淲hen I joined I鈥檇 be out speaking to people and I reckon one in 20 had heard of us. When I go out now, it鈥檚 better. It鈥檚 about one in five.鈥� With a growth strategy set to begin, Loudon is hoping for less head-scratching.

A QS by background, Loudon moved across to Dar in 2015, three years after Middle East-based Dar Group bought the venerable Currie & Brown.

By the time he left Currie & Brown, Loudon had spent 25 years at the firm after first starting at the business back in 1989 following two years at a local authority in his native Scotland. 

鈥淏usiness will get through [Brexit] and business will keep going. London鈥檚 not Brexit-proof but it鈥檚 very resilient. to us, london and the uk are still very important鈥�

As well as Currie & Brown, Dar Group 鈥� which is based in Beirut and has been up and running since 1956 鈥� also owns architect Perkins+Will and engineering firm Elementa, which is part of Integral Group. And of course it also owns Dar, the multidisciplinary consultancy operating across the Middle East, Africa and Asia, which is where Loudon comes in. The firm specialises in the front-end disciplines of a project such as planning and urban design, masterplanning and economics.

Dar employs 120 people at its office in Marylebone and has a current annual income of about 拢15m. 鈥淲e鈥檙e certainly looking to double, treble that in two or three years鈥� time,鈥� Loudon says. 鈥淲e鈥檇 be getting up towards 500 people over the next three years.鈥� He adds: 鈥淚n the UK it should be bigger than it is.鈥�

British ambitions

Loudon is speaking a few days after the government was hit by the resignations of Brexit secretary Dominic Raab and work and pensions secretary Esther McVey on the same morning, in the middle of last month. The prime minister was forced into an early evening statement, with some even speculating that she would resign with her Brexit plan in tatters.

While Brexit dominates Westminster politics, Loudon is keeping on keeping on. He admits leaving the EU will create 鈥渟ome issues 鈥� the car and logistics industries will have a lot, the way their instantaneous supply chains work鈥�. But he says: 鈥淲e don鈥檛 see it as a massive issue for our business. We鈥檙e still investing in the UK.鈥� 

Since then dire forecasts have been made, with the Bank of England saying last week that a disorderly, no-deal Brexit would induce a bigger slump than the last financial crash a decade ago.

Loudon is less alarmist. 鈥淎 hard Brexit will have an impact on the currency: sterling will weaken quite a bit. But you carry on as normal. You have to. Businesses are planning all the time 鈥� business will be very resilient through all this.

A native of the Lanarkshire market town of Strathaven, he doesn鈥檛 think Brexit makes Scottish independence inevitable. 鈥淭here will be a push to do a second [independence] referendum, but there are some big challenges on the economy up there. It鈥檚 not as robust as it could be.鈥�

Dar Group鈥檚 various UK companies employ about 1,500 people here, with by the far biggest number the 1,200 on the books of Currie & Brown. Loudon hazards that about one-third of the 1,500 are from the EU. 鈥淭hey see the UK very much as their home. I don鈥檛 think we鈥檒l see a massive issue in terms of our headcount from Europe.鈥�

He says Brexit doesn鈥檛 dominate conversations with his bosses in Lebanon. 鈥淭hey don鈥檛 raise it a great deal,鈥� he adds. 鈥淭hey ask for opinions from different people but it鈥檚 not going to affect their investment decisions.鈥�

New UK office

Loudon points to the money Dar is ploughing into a new office the firm is building at 150 Holborn, a stone鈥檚 throw away from the headquarters of supermarket firm Sainsbury鈥檚. John F Hunt has recently begun demolition work at the site, with main contractor McLaren set to start on the 拢80m construction contract by the middle of next year. Designed by Perkins+Will, the eight-storey building will be ready for occupation by the middle of 2021.

As well as Dar staff, it will also be the new London base for Currie & Brown, now billeted at nearby 40 High Holborn, and Whitechapel-based Perkins+Will, along with Elementa, which is at present located in the City.

The new office will be a base for the wider group to spearhead a push into the UK. Loudon says: 鈥淎 lot of people don鈥檛 realise the different companies in our group.鈥� Dar鈥檚 full name is Dar Al-Handasah and its English meaning is 鈥渉ouse of brands鈥�, he explains.

鈥淲e see the UK as being more important increasingly, going forward. The new office will bring [all the brands] in one place and make sure we collaborate and work a lot closer together as a group.鈥�

As part of this, the group produced its first ever annual report earlier this year and under its Dar 2020 plan, introduced a couple of years ago, the firm wants to focus on infrastructure, architecture, project management and energy. Its job sheet includes a huge causeway in Kuwait stretching to nearly 50km and a hyperloop system planned for Abu Dhabi. It is also helping to build a new administrative centre in Egypt鈥檚 capital, Cairo.

In the UK, Loudon鈥檚 office is working on HS2 as well as some business parks in Southampton. But he concedes: 鈥淎bsolutely we are small, but we want to grow.鈥� He says there are opportunities around a slew of infrastructure and regeneration schemes such as the Northern Powerhouse, the Midlands Engine and the redevelopment of Old Oak Common in west London.

He says the UK has a great reputation internationally in engineering and design, adding: 鈥淲hat we鈥檙e looking forward to doing is working closely with UK government to help the export agenda of UK plc.鈥� He says the UK鈥檚 export focus has traditionally been on Europe but, with an eye on Brexit, adds: 鈥淭here will be a big push for government to export and we want to be involved in that.鈥�

Consulting, not contracting

What Dar will not be doing, however, is following the example of some of its peers and getting involved in contracting. Aecom has a contracting arm which in the UK is behind the HOK-designed, 67-storey Spire tower in London鈥檚 Docklands, which was put under review by its Chinese developer Greenland earlier this year.

鈥淔or us, as Dar, we鈥檙e going to stick to being a design consulting firm. The contracting market in the UK has been very challenging for a lot of people. It comes back to procurement, the advice they get and how they procure.鈥�

By the time demolition contractors have finished clearing the site for Dar鈥檚 new London headquarters, the UK should have left the EU. How is not yet quite clear, and Theresa May鈥檚 plan faces a House of Commons vote on Tuesday that many believe she cannot win.

But Loudon is staying calm while tensions rise. 鈥淎t the end of the day, like everything else, it鈥檚 a negotiation. Business will get through it and business will keep going,鈥� he says. 鈥淟ondon鈥檚 not Brexit-proof but it鈥檚 very resilient. To us, London and the UK are still very important.鈥�