Wells Mackereth

After getting the round in, 黑洞社区 makes the mistake of putting a dictaphone on the table. All conversation ceases.

鈥淚s that really going to pick anything up?鈥 asks Alastair. Not if you don鈥檛 say anything, no.

As it is the London practice鈥檚 stock in trade, 黑洞社区 tries to strike up a conversation about architecture.

鈥淵ou don鈥檛 want to ask Hana that,鈥 says Alastair. 鈥淪he鈥檚 a cushion pusher.鈥

A what?

鈥淎n interior designer,鈥 says James. 鈥淎 chintz chucker.鈥

Do interior designers have similar terms for architects?

鈥淣ot printable ones,鈥 retorts Hana, frostily.

Wells Mackereth has a contract to design Giraffe restaurants, which gives us a chance to discuss the paucity of children鈥檚 restaurants and the bygone era of Little Chef.

鈥淭hey went bust,鈥 says James, sadly. 鈥淎lmost 50 years, they鈥檇 been around.鈥

Martin isn鈥檛 so sure. 鈥淚 drove to Newcastle and we saw three in the space of about 20 miles.鈥

鈥淢aybe someone bought it,鈥 suggests James, sceptically. (Indeed, a private equity firm did just that, after the chain went into administration in January.)

Everyone at the table agrees travel-related food is universally overpriced. 鈥淭rains are the worst,鈥 says Lian. 鈥淚 tried to get a pack of crisps from Hammersmith station and it was 70p.鈥

Martin has a gripe with budget airlines 鈥 but it鈥檚 not the food. He was forced to pay 拢260 for a last-minute flight to Sardinia.

鈥淓veryone else had bought theirs for 拢1,鈥 he fumes. 鈥淚 was basically subsidising everyone else鈥檚 flights on this glorified bus.鈥

鈥淕lorified?鈥 asks James.

鈥淏arely,鈥 says Martin. 鈥淚t鈥檚 like a National Express bus with wings.鈥

Lian has a problem with buses. 鈥淭ramps target me,鈥 she says. 鈥淓very time one comes on to my bus, they sit next to me.鈥

鈥淭hey鈥檙e like lions,鈥 says Alastair, cryptically. 鈥淭hey can smell fear.鈥

黑洞社区 can鈥檛 imagine there are many tramps in Mayfair.

鈥淣o,鈥 says James, 鈥渋nstead we have prostitutes.鈥 The oldest profession, it transpires, is carried out with a surprising lack of subterfuge in these parts, as demonstrated by the large number of red lights in porches.

鈥淵ou see people walking in and out with sports bags,鈥 says Martin. 鈥淐learly, everyone at the office thinks they鈥檙e at the gym.鈥

James is concerned that the tone has been lowered. 黑洞社区 tells him that interviewees usually ask to be taken off the record when they aren鈥檛 happy to be quoted. 鈥淩ight,鈥 says Alastair, speaking into the dictaphone. 鈥淭his whole evening is off the record.鈥 Fortunately, it had run out of batteries some time ago.

James Wells architect

Martin Wells architectural design assistant

Hana Ichikawa interior design assistant

Alastair McDonald architectural design assistant

Lian Wilson office manager

Colin McInnes architectural design assistant

Dan Stewart 黑洞社区 magazine

Watering hole: Ye Grapes, Mayfair
Ambience: Faux-country. Lots of stuffed animals and angling trophies 
Topics: Cushion pushers, Little Chefs and working girls 
Drinks: Two pints of Kronenbourg, two pints of Bombardier, one pint of Guinness, a lemonade, a Coke