It鈥檚 not many firms that think government cuts are a good thing for their business, but Capita Symonds boss Jonathan Goring wants the outsourcing that comes with them to help him leapfrog his competitors

Jonathan Goring hardly breaks eye contact as he reels off his daily routine. The Capita Symonds boss, an ex-GB professional racing sailor for those who didn鈥檛 know, gets up at 5am every morning and is in the office by seven - squeezing in an hour鈥檚 gym session between emails. Work commitments and client meetings mean that he鈥檚 rarely home before 9pm, at least not recently. Well, he has been the man responsible for propelling Capita Symonds forward over the last three years through a number of key acquisitions and he has just overseen a major restructure of the group. He has an energy that borders on impatience.

And it soon becomes very clear that the 47-year-old, who rose through the ranks at both Mace and Bovis before taking over the top job at Capita Symonds in 2007, is not a man who does things by halves. Indeed, he believes that his firm can 鈥渢ransform鈥 the way government manages its estate and, on the way, become the UK鈥檚 biggest property management company, overtaking the likes of industry giants CBRE and Jones Lang LaSalle. Goring radiates impatience to move into the 鈥渧irgin territory鈥 of the public sector and shake up the 鈥渓azy鈥 property management industry.

Capita Symonds is certainly on the move. At the beginning of November the company restructured, turning four divisions into three. The architecture, M+E, transport and a host of other divisions became 鈥淒esign & Infrastructure鈥. Local authority and health outsourcing were tidied up into 鈥淩egions鈥. But, as Goring is at pains to emphasise, the headline news is the launch of a 鈥淩eal Estate鈥 division that swallows cost and project management as well as 拢45m-turnover firm NB Real Estate, bought in February.

鈥淧articularly with diverse organisations like ours, the clearer you are about what you do, the better. So now, we either manage, we design, or we partner,鈥 Goring explains.
鈥淭he idea is that the industry and clients should be much more joined up when it comes to delivering projects and managing the asset.鈥 The goal, he says, is that Capita Symonds will be a 鈥渙ne-stop shop鈥 for property services.

Playing leapfrog

Goring says Capita Symonds is in the 鈥減remiership鈥 of property management, but is - at the time of writing - the Arsenal to the top two in the table, CBRE and Jones Lang LaSalle (JLL). 鈥淲e鈥檙e probably the third-largest managers of assets. We manage a lot of the funds鈥 property, for instance. And in that we compete with CBRE, JLL, etc.鈥

But the plan is to leapfrog them and take the top spot, driving up turnover 30% from its current revenues of 拢80m over the next year, through both acquisitions and organic growth. 鈥淲e have the capability to be the premier player in property management.鈥

鈥淚t鈥檚 a relatively big goal but at JLL and CBRE their focus tends to be on the transactional side, so we鈥檝e intentionally focused on the management side,鈥 he says.

Current property management is 鈥渁 fairly lazy support service,鈥 Goring says. 鈥淭here is potential there to do it much more efficiently. It鈥檚 generally been done on the back of the agency businesses that sit in expensive property, that don鈥檛 necessarily employ the best technology, so we think they are two areas of tremendous improvement.鈥

These big plans are going to need a bigger outfit, and Capita Symonds is a hungry company. One of the reasons for the restructure is to stamp its brand on the eight acquisitions it has made over the last three years. These include Andrew Martin Associates in June 2009 and NB Real Estate earlier in the year.

It takes a little nudge for Goring to admit that he expects more to come on board in 2011. 鈥淲e鈥檇 like an even stronger foothold in asset management. Also the programme delivery world, so we will be looking at an organisation that does just that, and one that starts a long way up the food chain - a big, client relationship type organisation.鈥 Three acquisitions seem the most likely outcome, he admits. 鈥淏ut to get three you have to target six,鈥 he adds, with a smile.

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Public money

Goring鈥檚 not-so-secret weapon in this rise is the public sector, which he sees as ripe for an overhaul of the way it manages its estate. And this is how he plans for Capita Symonds to streak past the bigger real estate players, not least by exploiting its links with parent company Capita, the biggest beneficiary of outsourcing cash spent in the first five months of the coalition government.

鈥淲e have an aspiration to grow property management into a market which [CBRE and JLL] don鈥檛 own, which is the public sector - virgin territory. Coming together with Capita means that we have the relationships with the public sector,鈥 Goring says.

No example is left unused to demonstrate how Capita Symonds will fit perfectly in David Cameron鈥檚 pocket. It can even help set up the government鈥檚 flagship John-Lewis style mutuals: not-for-profit associations of state employees who would take over running parts of the public sector. 鈥淲e鈥檝e been doing mutuals for many years,鈥 Goring says.

If state functions are privatised in this way, Goring insists Capita Symonds will be publicly accountable. 鈥淚f we take on a government service, we are accountable in the same way as the government,鈥 he says, and claims that Capita Symonds even answers freedom of information requests. This turns out not to be quite the whole story. Capita does help public authorities answer FOI requests where they concern outsourced services, but it is not directly responsible and can omit details if it feels they are commercially sensitive.

So how ready is Capita Symonds for its expansion plan? Two weeks ago Goring鈥檚 parent company, Capita, told the City that it had begun to see a slowing of growth in the short term as government contract cutbacks start to take effect. But it remains bullish that cuts, and the resultant outsourcing, will benefit it in the medium term. Goring sees the tide turning at 鈥渢he tail end of next year鈥.

It is a fortunate coincidence that his business strategy aligns almost perfectly with his political persuasions. 鈥淚 voted Tory. I just wanted a change, and I felt there were some things that fundamentally didn鈥檛 feel right. One was the size of the public sector. Things were becoming too sluggish and too difficult, too many links in the chain.鈥

But, in the end, is this grand plan to manage the public鈥檚 estate about ideology, or business? Goring is clear. 鈥淏usiness.鈥

A week in the life of Jonathan Goring

The working day
鈥淎t 5am I get up, have a shower and get on the train - the 6.14 from Weybridge in Surrey. I arrive in the office about 7.00, do half an hour of emails, then go to the gym between 7.30 and 8.30. We鈥檙e not clockwatchers at all, so if I want to go home because it鈥檚 someone鈥檚 carol service, I go at four o鈥檆lock. But the norm is to walk out the door some time between six and eight.鈥

Weekday evenings
鈥淥ver the past two weeks I haven鈥檛 really been home, because we鈥檝e had something on every night. I spend a lot of time with clients and so on.鈥 Goring was also fashionably late to his company鈥檚 own restructuring party because, as he casually drops into conversation, he was at Buckingham Palace. 鈥淲e sponsor the civil service awards,鈥 he explains.

Weekends
Goring used to sail for Great Britain and has kept up his passion ever since. He was on the victorious Capita Symonds boat at industry racing day Little Britain. 鈥淲e were first in our class.鈥 By a long way? 鈥淵eah.鈥 Is that normal? 鈥淚 don鈥檛 think we鈥檝e lost,鈥 he laughs.
鈥淚鈥檝e just bought a new boat actually,鈥 he explains. 鈥淚t鈥檚 being built at the moment in Hong Kong. It鈥檚 being delivered in May. It鈥檚 40ft, very light, very fast downwind. Should be a real grand prix rocket ship.鈥
Goring says he loves the sense of freedom that sailing gives him: 鈥淚f you鈥檙e focusing on sailing you cannot think about anything else. But I鈥檓 quite good at compartmentalising anyway.鈥